View Full Version : Okay, anyone here done the Baumann VB kit themselves?
lxtasy93
04-30-2006, 06:42 PM
I just read through the instruction manual and it scared me to death. I've read a bunch of threads and I think I've settled on doing the medium setting considering my Edge 3500 converter, but all this precise drilling and deburring of particular passages has me a little intimidated....If I had a spare valvebody I don't think it would scare me as much....input, ideas anyone? T H A N K S !
frdfandc
05-01-2006, 12:27 AM
I helped a co-worker do one in is S-10 a several years back. It IS intimidating, but if you take your time and follow the directions word for word, its not too bad.
SilverFox
05-01-2006, 08:03 AM
On the AOD I do them monthly at least....very easy.
To make it less intimidating: remove the seperator plate and use a black perminent marker and circle the holes and write the bit size next to it....that way you can mark it up, drill it with confidence.
The cutback plug and orrfice that you have to make is easy due to the passage under the sperator plate often leaving a shadow of where the routing touches the plate...kinda gives you a picture of where it goes.
I reccomend that you bump the shift RPM's at least 500rpm, anything below is a waste of time! I set them all at 700 when they leave here.
lxtasy93
05-01-2006, 10:20 PM
On the AOD I do them monthly at least....very easy.
To make it less intimidating: remove the seperator plate and use a black perminent marker and circle the holes and write the bit size next to it....that way you can mark it up, drill it with confidence.
The cutback plug and orrfice that you have to make is easy due to the passage under the sperator plate often leaving a shadow of where the routing touches the plate...kinda gives you a picture of where it goes.
I reccomend that you bump the shift RPM's at least 500rpm, anything below is a waste of time! I set them all at 700 when they leave here.
Excellent info, I was hoping I'd get a response from you. I've read alot of your posts with great interest and have printed out many of them in thoughts of having the reference when the inevitable rebuild comes due. I'm looking for a 5900 rpm WOT shift point on the 1-2 and the 2-3 anywhere near that...
I'm also thinking of doing the A servo, but am a little unclear how all that goes back together. I'd really like to source a spare valve body and the servo from a junkyard vehicle, are there any other than a 5.0 mustang I can get a good "same as mine" 91 VB and the A servo from? 89 up F150 or Mark VII maybe? Thanks for all the help really !
SilverFox
05-02-2006, 08:16 AM
I'm looking for a 5900 rpm WOT shift point on the 1-2 and the 2-3 anywhere near that...!
If you want the best....this is what I have been doing for the past few builds. The Transgo shift kit comes with a "high rev" kit...it is a lightened governor valve that NATURALLY extends your shift point to 5800 rpm without the use of the TV limiter valve spacers. Why I do this...as any baumann kit users could tell you, it is difficult to get the trans to "downshift" almost like it is laborous for th trans to downshift out of OD or 3rd....I have traced this back to the TV limit valve spacers...the more you install...the harder it gets. SO lately I have been scrounging up TRANSGO HIGH REV kits from folks on the internet, using them, and then FINE tuning the tv limit valve if any additional shift settings are needed. Another good thing about this is that both your 1-2 and yout 3-4 are very close in RPM shift. The spacers tend to decrease your 3-4 by about 2-300 rpm. But don't take this info as a must, VERY many people are happy with just the kit alone and some never pay attention to the fualts I have pointed out.
I'm also thinking of doing the A servo, but am a little unclear how all that goes back together. I'd really like to source a spare valve body and the servo from a junkyard vehicle, are there any other than a 5.0 mustang I can get a good "same as mine" 91 VB and the A servo from? 89 up F150 or Mark VII maybe? Thanks for all the help really !
I think the A/+/++ is a must upgrade, no sense in haveing the VB off and keeping the damn C servo if you have it....the B is okay, but I still preffer to upgrade. The SuperCoupe is the only AOD that came with the A that I have seen...people say trucks...but yet to find one. Assembly is cakewalk, it requires a hydrolic jack, block of wood, snapring pliers, and a screwdriver...that is all.
Stick to CAR ADO VB's....not sure, but the trucks may be a little differnt, but I am willing to bet it is just myth. Any 3.8/5.0 powered AOD will work. Tbirds/cougars seem to be the easiest. But, in the end, the kit doesn't take that long if you have confidence, and using your old VB gurantees that it is going to work BECAUSE IT DID BEFORE!!! ... Right!
lxtasy93
05-02-2006, 09:13 PM
Good point, I'm thinking I may tear it down on friday night and take my time over the weekend to do it. The sharpie idea is the tops, thanks again!
lxtasy93
05-04-2006, 06:18 AM
Silverfox,
sorry to ask so many questions, but to get close to my intended rpm shifts, how many spacers should I use from the kit? Or which ones should I say?
Thanks again, really!
SilverFox
05-04-2006, 08:54 AM
according to Bauman every 0.01875" of spacers = 100 rpm
So if the factory WOT shift point is about 4500 and you want 5900
5900
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4500
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1400
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100
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14
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0.01875
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0.2625" of spacers - this is off the scale.
The spacers are .055 (3), .032 (1), .016 (1)
So if you add them all you have 0.211 and that won't meet your demand.
IMHO, I would start with Two spacers and both shimms. THis should be 0.158" which is roughly 900rpm according to baumans scale.
I will say this....over time the TV limit spring gets weaker and the shift begin to fall back down...at least over a few years.
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